Beware! This topic may upset you: Denominationalism and Why I disagree with it.
First I want to start off by saying that my goal for writing this blog is to make people think. I do not intend to offend anybody, but I am about to go over a very touchy subject amongst Christians in general. I was saving this particular topic for after I finished explaining my evolution from an atheist to a New Testament Christian. So yes, I am a Bible thumper. But I received an anonymous comment today on one of my early posts that stated the following:
"For many years the church of Christ has had a reputation for believing if you belong to any other church, you are going to Hell. As a Christian affiliated with another denomination, feeling very secure in my salvation it has always offended me. I sense you are less narrowminded than some of your brothers and sisters-and that's a good thing!"
I feel compelled to write this blog now, because I do not want this person to get the wrong idea about me. If I could I would ask this person to study with me I would (I am trying to figure out how to get my email link on here, but I'd rather write this at the moment). I feel like I should address each point individually.
Please understand, I am NOT making fun of this person. I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about me. I don't look forward to disabusing this person's ideas of me. I mean, I'd like to be thought of as being open-minded, but I feel after I address each of these points some of you will not think I am open-minded at all. Also, if any of you disagree with about the scriptual references on denominationalism please tell me where I am in error.
Let me first clarify: I attend an independent church of Christ. We support ourselves, and we consider ourselves to be undenominational. We encourage anyone to point out how we may err from the Bible. We understand that there was only one perfect person in all time, and that nobody could possibly be perfect, but we can do our humanly best to follow God's Word. (If any of my church family read this and disagree with my synopsis please let me know ASAP so I can correct myself :) ). If you would like please feel free to visit our website http://www.princestreet.org/. What I learned there was one of the things that attracted me to my church, and I feel so blessed to have found them. All right, back to my anonymous commenter.
Point 1
My commenter states, For many years the church of Christ has had a reputation for believing if you belong to any other church, you are going to Hell.
I understand how this reputation has occured. Please let me explain (to the best of my abilities). I have chosen my specific independent church because they do their very best to stick to what the Bible says. When I was trying to figure out what church I should attend I was very discouraged because I had no idea which denomination to choose. As far as I could tell NO denomination had it absolutely correct. Some believed in faith only, some believed in baptism, some did not take the Lord's supper, etc. It was very, very confusing. I was telling this to a friend of mine who grew up in a church of Christ (which I didn't know anything about). I asked her, "Doesn't anybody just go by the Bible, period?!?" She said, "You could always check out a church of Christ, that is what they do." I started doing research immediately! What do you know!?! According to Wikipedia (which is my go to for a quick reference) the churches of Christ try to go as closely to the Bible as possible, there are still divisions, and some have become institutionalized, but they try their hardest to be as close to the early churches that were started by the apostles. This was very logical to me, and therefore, very appealing. I didn't have to worry about who was right and who was wrong (in the denominational scheme of things). This is a long story that I may continue in another post. The point is, what attracted me to a church of Christ is that members of the church try their best to do what the 1st century churches tried to do. So here is the thing. We believe that the Bible holds the ultimate authority about how a church should be ran. Therefore we believe there are scripturally correct ways to run your church and scriptually incorrect ways. We try to avoid the scripturally incorrect ways, because that would mean that we were in error, and we would not be headed through the narrow gate on the narrow path that leads to heaven (please see Mathew 7:13-14!). We are warned repeatedly throughout the New Testament to watch out for men replacing God's Word with their own ideas (1 Corinthians 1:18-25--men are fools, God is not; 1 Corinthians 2:4-5--faith based on God's power, not men's wisdom; and especially 1 Corinthians 4:6--Nothing beyond what is written; 2 Peter 2:1--false prophets; and many more). Another point on this subject, in Matthew 15 Jesus is discussing with the Pharisees and scribes the problem of tradition. Jesus points out that Isaiah prophesied that the people worship God in vain because they are teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. Jesus is telling these men that they will all be going to hell because their hearts are not in the right place when they worship God. They are too focused on the traditions of the elders, and have made them like laws (doctrines by men). This is what I, and many fellow New Testament Christians, worry about for the many, many people out there who are practicing in a denomination.
Point 2
My commentor states, As a Christian affiliated with another denomination, feeling very secure in my salvation it has always offended me.
Why do you feel offended by this if you are very secure in your faith? If you are secure in your faith you shouldn't let these opinions bother you because you know you are going to heaven. These people who believe you are going to hell are just wrong, unfortunately for them. I, myself, am not offended by muslims believing that I am going to hell. I am not offended by anybody thinking I'll be going to hell. I hope they would tell me so I could correct my ways and hopefully make it to heaven.
But let me ask you this: have you really studied the Bible? Or are you just going by what you were taught (traditions of your family?) If you have then please email me, because I want to go to heaven too! I want to know I am right with God. But let me also ask you this: on judgment day, if Jesus asks you, "Why did you choose to follow that denomination?" what will you tell him? Can you defend your answer? I don't know what Jesus will say to anyone; that is impossible for me to know. I can only know what the Bible tells me. But if Jesus asks me why I worship with the people I worshiped with, I will be able to tell him, "Because Lord, they tried harder than any other church I looked at to follow your Word and not man's ideas." I am not completely confident in my salvation. But I am going to do my best to not go to hell. I honestly do not want anyone to go to hell. I want us all to go to heaven. The Bible says that God wants us all to go to heaven. But God can not allow sin in his presence. Because of this, God made a way for us to join him and he explained that way to us in the Word. But he did not make it that easy to find (which Jesus also explains in Mathew--the reason for parables). Why would God want somebody who didn't honestly strive for and seek Him and do their utmost to please Him? If you have any doubts that your church is teaching in error please keep the following scriptures in mind: Romans 14:23 (if you doubt you sin).
And finally,
Point 3
My commenter stated, I sense you are less narrowminded than some of your brothers and sisters-and that's a good thing!
I cannot say if this is true or false, but I believe that by your definition of I am just as narrowminded as my brothers and sisters in Christ. I believe that if a person does not follow, to the best of their ability, what the Bible says, then they will go to hell. I know this is going to upset many of my friends and family. I do not want you to go to hell and I am not judging your actions. As I have mentioned in previous posts, we have no way to know what God will do except for what we can read in the Bible. I know I am not perfect, I sin all the time, I can't help it. I do know that if I repent I'll be forgiven, but I worry that I might not have repented of everything I need to repent of by the time I am judged. I believe that the Bible tells us that our hearts will be judged (please correct me if I am in error!). I can not judge you because I do NOT know what is in your heart. I can judge your actions based on what the Bible says, but I truly can NOT say this person or that person will be going to hell and none of my brethren can either. I am sorry that you have been offended in the past. I hope that this post does not offend you, but that it does help you to think about your beliefs and be able to defend them!
"For many years the church of Christ has had a reputation for believing if you belong to any other church, you are going to Hell. As a Christian affiliated with another denomination, feeling very secure in my salvation it has always offended me. I sense you are less narrowminded than some of your brothers and sisters-and that's a good thing!"
I feel compelled to write this blog now, because I do not want this person to get the wrong idea about me. If I could I would ask this person to study with me I would (I am trying to figure out how to get my email link on here, but I'd rather write this at the moment). I feel like I should address each point individually.
Please understand, I am NOT making fun of this person. I just don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about me. I don't look forward to disabusing this person's ideas of me. I mean, I'd like to be thought of as being open-minded, but I feel after I address each of these points some of you will not think I am open-minded at all. Also, if any of you disagree with about the scriptual references on denominationalism please tell me where I am in error.
Let me first clarify: I attend an independent church of Christ. We support ourselves, and we consider ourselves to be undenominational. We encourage anyone to point out how we may err from the Bible. We understand that there was only one perfect person in all time, and that nobody could possibly be perfect, but we can do our humanly best to follow God's Word. (If any of my church family read this and disagree with my synopsis please let me know ASAP so I can correct myself :) ). If you would like please feel free to visit our website http://www.princestreet.org/. What I learned there was one of the things that attracted me to my church, and I feel so blessed to have found them. All right, back to my anonymous commenter.
Point 1
My commenter states, For many years the church of Christ has had a reputation for believing if you belong to any other church, you are going to Hell.
I understand how this reputation has occured. Please let me explain (to the best of my abilities). I have chosen my specific independent church because they do their very best to stick to what the Bible says. When I was trying to figure out what church I should attend I was very discouraged because I had no idea which denomination to choose. As far as I could tell NO denomination had it absolutely correct. Some believed in faith only, some believed in baptism, some did not take the Lord's supper, etc. It was very, very confusing. I was telling this to a friend of mine who grew up in a church of Christ (which I didn't know anything about). I asked her, "Doesn't anybody just go by the Bible, period?!?" She said, "You could always check out a church of Christ, that is what they do." I started doing research immediately! What do you know!?! According to Wikipedia (which is my go to for a quick reference) the churches of Christ try to go as closely to the Bible as possible, there are still divisions, and some have become institutionalized, but they try their hardest to be as close to the early churches that were started by the apostles. This was very logical to me, and therefore, very appealing. I didn't have to worry about who was right and who was wrong (in the denominational scheme of things). This is a long story that I may continue in another post. The point is, what attracted me to a church of Christ is that members of the church try their best to do what the 1st century churches tried to do. So here is the thing. We believe that the Bible holds the ultimate authority about how a church should be ran. Therefore we believe there are scripturally correct ways to run your church and scriptually incorrect ways. We try to avoid the scripturally incorrect ways, because that would mean that we were in error, and we would not be headed through the narrow gate on the narrow path that leads to heaven (please see Mathew 7:13-14!). We are warned repeatedly throughout the New Testament to watch out for men replacing God's Word with their own ideas (1 Corinthians 1:18-25--men are fools, God is not; 1 Corinthians 2:4-5--faith based on God's power, not men's wisdom; and especially 1 Corinthians 4:6--Nothing beyond what is written; 2 Peter 2:1--false prophets; and many more). Another point on this subject, in Matthew 15 Jesus is discussing with the Pharisees and scribes the problem of tradition. Jesus points out that Isaiah prophesied that the people worship God in vain because they are teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. Jesus is telling these men that they will all be going to hell because their hearts are not in the right place when they worship God. They are too focused on the traditions of the elders, and have made them like laws (doctrines by men). This is what I, and many fellow New Testament Christians, worry about for the many, many people out there who are practicing in a denomination.
Point 2
My commentor states, As a Christian affiliated with another denomination, feeling very secure in my salvation it has always offended me.
Why do you feel offended by this if you are very secure in your faith? If you are secure in your faith you shouldn't let these opinions bother you because you know you are going to heaven. These people who believe you are going to hell are just wrong, unfortunately for them. I, myself, am not offended by muslims believing that I am going to hell. I am not offended by anybody thinking I'll be going to hell. I hope they would tell me so I could correct my ways and hopefully make it to heaven.
But let me ask you this: have you really studied the Bible? Or are you just going by what you were taught (traditions of your family?) If you have then please email me, because I want to go to heaven too! I want to know I am right with God. But let me also ask you this: on judgment day, if Jesus asks you, "Why did you choose to follow that denomination?" what will you tell him? Can you defend your answer? I don't know what Jesus will say to anyone; that is impossible for me to know. I can only know what the Bible tells me. But if Jesus asks me why I worship with the people I worshiped with, I will be able to tell him, "Because Lord, they tried harder than any other church I looked at to follow your Word and not man's ideas." I am not completely confident in my salvation. But I am going to do my best to not go to hell. I honestly do not want anyone to go to hell. I want us all to go to heaven. The Bible says that God wants us all to go to heaven. But God can not allow sin in his presence. Because of this, God made a way for us to join him and he explained that way to us in the Word. But he did not make it that easy to find (which Jesus also explains in Mathew--the reason for parables). Why would God want somebody who didn't honestly strive for and seek Him and do their utmost to please Him? If you have any doubts that your church is teaching in error please keep the following scriptures in mind: Romans 14:23 (if you doubt you sin).
And finally,
Point 3
My commenter stated, I sense you are less narrowminded than some of your brothers and sisters-and that's a good thing!
I cannot say if this is true or false, but I believe that by your definition of I am just as narrowminded as my brothers and sisters in Christ. I believe that if a person does not follow, to the best of their ability, what the Bible says, then they will go to hell. I know this is going to upset many of my friends and family. I do not want you to go to hell and I am not judging your actions. As I have mentioned in previous posts, we have no way to know what God will do except for what we can read in the Bible. I know I am not perfect, I sin all the time, I can't help it. I do know that if I repent I'll be forgiven, but I worry that I might not have repented of everything I need to repent of by the time I am judged. I believe that the Bible tells us that our hearts will be judged (please correct me if I am in error!). I can not judge you because I do NOT know what is in your heart. I can judge your actions based on what the Bible says, but I truly can NOT say this person or that person will be going to hell and none of my brethren can either. I am sorry that you have been offended in the past. I hope that this post does not offend you, but that it does help you to think about your beliefs and be able to defend them!
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